'southern cross' - not really, depends. consciousness determines the constellations. land and culture. it can be anything, but is mostly observation, experience and rationale. that's why the stories are sacred. people see stories. people ARE stories.
A stingray (the cross) that was being pursued throughout the southern sky by a shark (the pointers). "Mirrabooka" a kind and clever man who was immortalised by being put in the night sky by Biami, the creator. This was to assist with watching over the people on earth. The pointers are Mirrabooka's eyes - seeing all of the earth. The footprint of a wedge-tailed eagle; the pointers were his throwing stick and the dark patch, his nest. Yaraan-doo, the place of the ghost gum tree. And the Pointers are called Mooyi, the white cockatoos
The seven rishis, or poet-sages, seers, who were mediums or conduits for the Vedic texts. "The Seven (Great) Sages" The starry plough and the saucepan. The cart and big bear. A salmon net. 7 plough oxen. A táltos who carried medicines in his cart that could cure any disease. In Mongolia, it is known as the Seven Gods. The four stars of the dipper's bowl is a coffin, with the three stars in the handle as mourners, following it. A large ladle or dipper appears to be derived originally from Africa, where it was sometimes seen as a drinking gourd. In the 19th century, runaway slaves would "follow the Drinking Gourd" to the north and freedom. The bowl is a bear, the handle three cubs following their mother, or three hunters tracking the bear. Fisher star. Horse and rider. Caribou.
The Inuit sky culture files available for Stellarium are an adaptation of John MacDonald's research in The Arctic Sky, Inuit Astronomy, Star Lore and Legend. While placements and specifics of Inuit constellations might differ from tribe to tribe, the information in Stellarium presents the constellations and general themes of the arctic universe. A short intro to Inuit starlore based on MacDonald's book is available as a pdf on the web. It is included in the list of links below. Illustrations are done by Johan Meuris, released under the Free Art License
# 1 Inuit constellations in Stellarium
* 1.1 Two Sunbeams * 1.2 Two Placed Far Apart * 1.3 Dogs * 1.4 Collarbones * 1.5 Lamp Stand * 1.6 Caribou * 1.7 Two in Front * 1.8 The One Behind * 1.9 Breastbone * 1.10 Runners * 1.11 Blubber Container * 1.12 Never Moves * 1.13 Nephews or Nieces * 1.14 The Milky Way * 1.15 Name of a Murdered Man
It is now well known that the constellations of the Zodiac originated in the ancient land of Babylonia (modern day Iraq). Yet, despite more than a century and a half of scholarship, very little information on this subject has been made accessible to the nonspecialist. We are very grateful to Gavin White for allowing us to reproduce excerpts of his recently published Babylonian Star-lore....
The autumnal abundance of the earth is symbolised by the two-fold goddesses of the Frond and the Furrow, which respectively represent the two principle cultivated foodstuffs of Babylonia – dates and barley. Dates are especially valuable as they provide a rich source of nourishment that is easily preserved for future use. The constellation of the Frond, which depicts the goddess Erua with a branch of the date palm, makes its annual appearance in the heavens as the dates start to ripen on the frond. www.skyscript.co.uk/babylonian_virgo.pdf
Azure Dragon of the East (springsky), Vermillion Bird of the South (summersky), Black Turtle of the North (wintersky), White Tiger of the West (fallsky)
The Three Enclosures occupy the area close to the North Celestial Pole. The Twenty-eight Mansions occupy the zodiacal band & reflect the movement of the Moon in a lunar month rather than the Sun in a solar year.
YEAR ROUND The Three Enclosures are separated by 'walls':
* Purple Forbidden enclosure (紫微垣, Zǐ Wēi Yuán) - northernmost area of the night sky, middle of the sky
about stars It is thought that Amerigo Vespucci was the first of the European voyagers to see the "Four Stars," as he called them, while on his third voyage in 1501. But actually, Crux was plainly visible everywhere in the United States some 5,000 years ago, as well as in ancient Greece and Babylonia. According to Richard Hinckley Allen (1838-1908), an expert in stellar nomenclature, the Southern Cross was last seen on the horizon of Jerusalem about the time that Christ was crucified. But thanks to precession — an oscillating motion of the Earth's axis — over the centuries, the Cross ended up getting shifted out of view well to the south...
Limits of visibility There are likely a number of readers who have never seen either the Big Dipper or the Southern Cross and might wonder about how far they might have to travel in order to get a view of them. Coincidentally, at this time of the year, both are attaining their highest positions in the sky at the same time: right after nightfall in late May and early June. To see Crux, one must go at least as far south as latitude 25 degrees north. That means heading to the Florida Keys in the continental United States, where you'll see it just lifting fully above the southern horizon.
So far as seeing the Big Dipper, you must go north of latitude 25 degrees south to see it in its entirety. Across the northern half of Australia, for instance, you can now just see the upside-down Dipper virtually scraping the northern horizon soon after sundown. In fact, it's just the opposite effect as opposed to those who live in north temperate latitudes (like New York), whose inhabitants see the Dipper at a similar altitude above the northern horizon on early evenings in late November or early December — except the Dipper appears right-side up!
speculation... "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly" refers to the ancient whale constellation as Jonah sailed.
Cetus is a large constellation, occupying 50 degrees in length and 20 degrees in width. As large as it is, it contains no stars brighter than 2nd magnitude. It represents the sea monster sent by Neptune to devour Andromeda. Cetus was turned to stone when Perseus showed the monster the head of Medusa. Cetus has also been identified as the Biblically famous whale that swallowed Jonah. www.seasky.org/constellations/constellations-december.html
a supernova would have to be no farther than 25 light years away to "fry us with light or anything else and Betelgeuse is 25 times that distance".
# ^ 625 ly # the distance to Betelgeuse had been revised to 600 light-years now # The distance to Betelgeuse is not known with precision but if this is assumed to be 640 light years # The distance from our sun to Betelgeuse is 520 light years # modern direct parallax measurements resulted in a distance of one parsec is equivalent to 3.3 light years. 150 parsecs = 150 x 3.3 = 495 light years # A bright-red intrinsic variable star, 527 light-years from Earth, in the constellation Orion
WORD HISTORY The history of the curious star name Betelgeuse is a good example of how scholarly errors can creep into language. The story starts with the pre-Islamic Arabic astronomers, who called the star yad al-jawzā', "hand of the jawzā'." The jawzā' was their name for the constellation Gemini. After Greek astronomy became known to the Arabs, the word came to be applied to the constellation Orion as well. Some centuries later, when scribes writing in Medieval Latin tried to render the word, they misread the y as a b (the two corresponding Arabic letters are very similar when used as the first letter in a word), leading to the Medieval Latin form Bedalgeuze. In the Renaissance, another set of scholars trying to figure out the name interpreted the first syllable bed- as being derived from a putative Arabic word *bāṭ meaning "armpit." This word did not exist; it would correctly have been ibṭ. Nonetheless, the error stuck, and the resultant etymologically "improved" spelling Betelgeuse was borrowed into French as Bételgeuse, whence English Betelgeuse. www.answers.com/topic/betelgeuse
it'll be a new sky. i love the X. Rip. no shoulder. a whole different configuration.
i wonder what's behind it.
Dr. Brad Carter of the University of Southern Queensland detailed a scenario in which if Betelgeuse went supernova it would create what would appear to be a second sun in the sky for several weeks, despite it being 1300 light years away. www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=199153
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Runaway star races through space ASTRONOMY NOW - Posted: 26 January 2011
NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, WISE, has photographed a speeding star as it hurtles through space at nearly 90,000 kilometres per hour.
The star, known as zeta Ophiuchi, is some twenty times the mass of our own Sun, but astronomers think it must have once orbited around an even heftier star that exploded in a dramatic supernova event at the end of its life. The explosion kicked zeta Ophiuchi onto its new path at a breakneck speed of 24 kilometres per second (approximately 87,000 kilometres per hour).
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